HookNfinger
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I go down there every once and a while to sharpen up my "skills" if you can call them that. Im hoping to start getting out more on the trap shoots. shoot me a PM whenever ya are planning on heading out there ill bring the toys.
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Matt I just might take you up on that some time, I live just a mile down the road from the gun club. Mostly this gun would be used for deer hunting up north but I do not want to have to buy another one for elk for that once in a life time trip 
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Thanks for the info guys
So does anyone know if there is any noticeable less kick in the 7mm compared to the 30:06 using the same grain in both calibers?
the 7mm will kick more but nothing much
If ya ever want to shoot let me know ive got both guns 
As far as an elk gun and OVER THE COUNTER ammo i wouldnt go less then a 30 06
As far as shooting over 300 yards i would prefer a 300 win mag or a weatherby Less drop then the other guns listed
im with luke, i think a Beman ICS hunter 400g with a fixed blade would be the best for elk ill get one with a bow before i die
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AlvinMack
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They introduced the WSM series of cartridges to sell more guns! Period! They're is nothing they can do that most standard high power rounds cannot do. Most hunters put way too much into the cartridge when overall bullet selection in the ammunition you choose is much more critical. Try getting a WSM to feed like butter in a CRF action 
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Dobber
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The advantages I have noticed with the WSM cartridges is that you can get the rifle in a shorter action. If it wasnt for the belt on the standard magnums, I dont think they would have sold as many WSM's. As far as the CRF actions,why would you need one? The 700 Rem. is a push feed and is known as the most accurate out of the box rifles there has ever been. Most benchrest shooters use a 700 action or improved copy of one.
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AlvinMack
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As far as the CRF actions,why would you need one?
Because I believe them to be far more reliable in nastiest of hunting conditions. Also, it's a choice I make.
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The 700 Rem. is a push feed and is known as the most accurate out of the box rifles there has ever been. Most benchrest shooters use a 700 action or improved copy of one.
That's great if your punching paper. Question though, why is the Sako extractor aftermarket kit made so realily available for 700 actions if they are just as reliable as a CRF action? Has anyone ever seen the internal memo about their triggers, it's pretty interesting. They still haven't physically changed the trigger design even since that document from 1979 because it wasn't in their financial best interests to recall all of these rifles. I know it may seem as if I am dogging Remington. I'm really not however just trying to make a few points. I do own two 700 rifles (280 Mtn Rifle, 25.-06 BDL) both of which have been upgraded to safe Jewell triggers and both have had the Sako extractors installed.
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Dobber
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That was a popular move,putting the sako extrator in a 700.Now they dont recomend it,it weakens the bolt hence accuracy suffers. My opinion on CRF is that my remingtons have never failed to extract nor have my M70s. I respect your opinion,just wanted to show mine.
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AlvinMack
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I respect your opinion, just wanted to show mine.
Like you I'm a fan of the 700's too. Like I said I didn’t mean to come down on them. One thing I like about them is they are quite a bit easier to inlet on a custom stock 
Seriously us rifle guys are just too damn opinionated! (me included) But I try not to be too brash! I respect your opinion as well
Here is that 280 Mountain Rifle I was talking to you about. I'm trying to come somewhat close to the original design however I will be using a relatively high grade of English Walnut and I etched out a shadow line cheek piece. hopefully I get her done before the spring, but I've been know to procrastinate at times!
Remington 700 Mtn Rifle / About 75% complete.
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Dobber
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Ever do any work with lamenated? Its my favorite stock matereal. I just aquired a 25-06 project rifle(700 BDL )thinking of a boyds lamenate. If it doesnt shoot it will become a 6.5-284 or a 6.5-06.
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AlvinMack
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I think those Boyds nutmeg laminate stocks look pretty cool. The only problem I've seen with laminates is sometimes the diamonds tend to pop off when you're checkering them.
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elkmantom
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I guided for Elk for over 10 years. The advice that I would give is to choose something in 30 cal. or larger that you can handel the recoil from and still be very accurate with. Elk have an extreamly thick hide and very heavy bone. You can kill an elk with a .243 IF you have JUST THE RIGHT ANGLE but with a heavy (200 Grains or larger) you are not limited to just broadside and only rib cage. If you can shoot a 338 well and handel the recoil from it that would be my choice. You can shoot at a pretty good angle with that cal. from 200 yards and still get a one shoot kill.
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Tom Gursky
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I'm with Elkmantom... The .300 Win Mag is still the benchmark for Elk with a 180-220gr well constructed bullet.
I have a 24"bbl 30.06 that I handload 168gr Barnes TSX bullets for Elk. I practice A LOT off my shooting sticks and keep my shots under 300yds.
Before that I always used a .300 Wby mag. with 180gr Nosler partitions.
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