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An IN-DEPTH Look at... "How to use Slate Calls" by Indepth WebstaffAdministrator

The Author with a Slate Call Harvest
Written by: Joel Nelson - In-Depth Outdoors Pro Staff


After attending a local NWTF banquet this Spring and getting messages from friends that are just beginning to turkey hunt. A common question that I keep getting asked is: "Just exactly how do I use a slate call?" These slate calls are advertised as easy to use, and once you get the hang of it they are, but you need to know how to hold it and try and get sound out of the thing first.

With that said, there are a number of different ways to hold/use the call and still get great turkey sounds out of it. I'll just talk about the way I use it, describe why, and then you can decide for yourself how you want to go about it.

How to Grip the Slate/Base - If you're right handed, grip the slate by making a "C" with your Left thumb and middle/ring finger(s). Put the slate base into the "C" making sure not to touch the call surface with any part of your hand. For a lefty, just reverse your hands. Some people use just their fingertips surrounding the outside of the call with their palm facing upward, but I'm less consistent that way. To each their own, but this is what works for me.

Slate Call in Action
How to Grip the Striker - I like to hold the Stiker like a pen, but again be careful not to rest the heel of your hand or any other portion of your fingers on the slate surface. That is why I'll take my pinky of my right hand, and press it firmly against the middle finger/ring finger of my left hand along the call's edge. With my other fingers, I grip the striker like a pen. "Locking" my pinky against my other fingers along the call's edge allows me to control a few things better. Most importantly the consistency in how I strike the surface, along with being able to steady the call more readily.

How to Condition the Call - Depending on the type of surface, I'll use some sandpaper on a 1st pass, and scotch-brite on a 2nd pass. The idea is to continually condition the call in the same direction, creating miniature striations for which to drag the striker across. Try to align your conditioning marks to the grain of the wood, or lettering on the call itself. This will make it easier to remember how you should condition the call from year to year. Before using your call, always condition it.

A Variety of Slate Calls & Strikers
How to Make Sounds - Once you've conditioned your call and have a good idea how to grip it. Hold the striker at a slight angle and try to make "mini-footballs" the size of a pea or so on the surface of the slate. I make mine counter-clockwise. Once you get the hi/low sound on the down stroke, you've just made a yelp. String a few of those together and you're off and running. A cluck is made with a short, straight down stroke. Cutts, are multiple clucks together but sharper. Purrs, grip the striker a little higher, and a little more straight up and down, and pull evenly across the surface. A very important thing to remember is: Always remember to pull your striker across the surface, perpendicular to the direction you conditioned your calls!

Good Luck and I hope these basic Slate Call tips helps you out in the Turkey woods this Spring and brings in that big Ol' Gobbler.

Happy Tom Hunting
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Re: An IN-DEPTH Look at... "How to use Slate Calls" new [Re: Indepth Webstaff]
#616665 - 03/24/09 01:01 PM

Excellent Article Joel! It really helped this Turkey Novice understand things a lot better.

What is the difference between all the Slate Call Surfaces??? Ceramic, Glass, etc. Is it a preference thing?

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Re: An IN-DEPTH Look at... "How to use Slate Calls" new [Re: Rob Stenger]
#616675 - 03/24/09 03:06 PM

Lip:

Great question, and you're right, the surface material of your peg/pot style call can simply be a matter of personal preference. However, there are a few basic guidelines that I've established in trying out a vast array of surfaces over the years. I'll do my best to highlight my experiences, but please feel free to share your own, even-if and especially if they're contrary to my own!

  • Natural Slate - One of the most forgiving, sweetest/softest sounding surfaces for a friction call, natural slate conditions easily and mimics tree yelps and soft turkey talk better than most other surfaces I've tried. Not all slate is created equal, I'm a big fan of a few custom slates made by Chris Walls. I think custom calls on the peg/pot style are better in general for the callmaker's ability to match materials.

  • Glass - While much harder to condition, and somewhat less consistent, glass, esp. over other materials like crystal or acrylic make for a higher pitch call with more bite. This sound travels better, and the higher frequencies can "strike" birds better than most.

  • Aluminum - This surface has gained in popularity over the years for its ability to play well wet, when paired with a carbon striker. Also, it's another of the higher pitched, raspy style friction calls that get gobblers to sound off so well. Again, harder to condition and play consistently, IMO.

  • Other/Non-Traditional/Man-made - This is a big group that I've thrown a few different materials into. Ceramic, cordy, frictionite, plexi, crystal, etc. are handful of the "other" surfaces that are out there. Most are designed to try and give you the best of both worlds. Higher frequency, shrill cutts/yelps, with softer finishing calls towards the center of the pot are the goal on most of these. Crystal shows alot of promise in actually delivering on this idea, as does cordy and ceramic from my experience. However, much of it at this point gets to personal preference rather than turkey preference. I will say this about many of these surfaces; many are conditioning-free and very consistent.



Go ahead and do your homework, spend some time playing with a variety of peg/pot calls and see what works best for you. Don't even get me started on strikers!

Quaker boy offers a few calls, the Trifecta and Triple Threat, which feature multiple surfaces per call. This may be a good idea for folks looking at trying out a few surfaces, as well as for sounding like multiple turkeys from a single call.

Good luck!

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Re: An IN-DEPTH Look at... "How to use Slate Calls" new [Re: Joel Nelson]
#616685 - 03/24/09 06:28 PM

Good info and good article.

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#616697 - 03/24/09 09:44 PM

Excellent article Joel! Thank you for sharing your in depth turkey calling knowledge with us.

The slate call is my "go to call" and I always start out each hunt by using one. As you already pointed out, there are several good reasons why to use a slate call. Another one of mine is that it give you the ability to control the volume of your calls.

Like anything else, it takes some practice. Every slate call is a little bit different and you have to find out where that sweet spot is on each call.

Please share with us the different kinds of strikers (wood, graphite, metal, acrylic etc...) one could use and highlight some of their unique benefits.

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Re: An IN-DEPTH Look at... "How to use Slate Calls" new [Re: Brad Juaire]
#616739 - 03/25/09 09:30 AM

Great points Brad, esp. about that sweet spot which exists on every call. The best calls have a large sweet spot, and are easy to find when it's still a bit dark out and you're out hunting.

As for strikers, I'll do my best to share my experiences, but again, everyone please chime in with your own personal findings!

First, I'd like to say that any slate or pot call is only as good as the striker you match it with, and vice versa. I have calls today that at first I hated when tried with the striker that came packaged with it. I think hunters often times are afraid to mix/match strikers to different calls, but I heartily encourage it. You wouldn't believe the number of calls that can be brought back from the dead with a good striker.

Strikers or pegs can have an endless variety of shapes, sizes, tips, bells, and other identifying characteristics. However, more than anything else, the material in which the striker is made from will dictate sound characteristics.


  • Wood - This group makes up by far the largest component of all strikers, mostly because different wood species can sound so dramatically different on the same call. I've tried wooden pegs made of maple, walnut, oak, elm, persimmon, osage orange, apple, cherry, hickory, bubinga, purple heart, tigerwood, and mahogany. This dizzying array of wood species can be difficult to sort through, but as a general rule, the harder/tighter the grain of the wood, the higher-pitched sound and frequency you'll get from the call. There's always exceptions to each rule, but some of my favorites are maple, walnut, persimmon, and purple heart for these very reasons. At the same time having some of the softer wood strikers around for tree yelping is worth the hassle IMO.

  • Metal - Undoubtedly, metal strikers produce some of the highest frequencies possible from a pot/peg call. This however, comes at the expense of ease of use. I have only found one or two metal striker/pot call combos that I can use reliably to consistently produce good sound without an "oops" here or there. I think general consumer ease-of-use is a concern so you don't see them around as much as you used to.

  • Carbon/Graphite - Carbon strikers have gained some popularity in the past few years, often found packaged with a slate and other all-wood striker. Carbon, on many surfaces, can work well when wet. Another benefit of carbon is the rasp that you get when using it as opposed to the mellow/smoother sounding wood. Again, this can come at a small cost in consistency with most calls I've used.

  • Acrylic/Other Plastic - To my ear, these strikers don't do as well as the above others, with the exception of metal. Most sound too low-pitched for my own personal liking, but I've seen a few do good clucks and tree calls. The upside to these is durability. I've snapped several wooden strikers, but never a plastic one.


So, there you have it. The wide variety of available pegs out there makes me want to sit at some of the retailers that have them available to play with, and spend hours testing each striker with its own call, and each striker with different calls.

One last thing, I'm a bit partial to the flared-tips on certain strikers as I think they're easier to use. At the same time, I've got plenty of standard, rounded-tip strikers that I like and use each year.

More than you wanted to hear I'm sure. Let's hear your own experiences!

Joel

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Re: An IN-DEPTH Look at... "How to use Slate Calls" new [Re: Joel Nelson]
#616741 - 03/25/09 09:34 AM

Thanks agian Joel, now I know a ton more about slate calls. I do not own one yet, but I have a box call and a few mouth calls. I had the mouth calls out last night practicing while I watched Turkey Hunts on the Outdoor Channel.

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#616757 - 03/25/09 11:32 AM

It's all personal preference. You don't need every style of call out there to bring birds to you. Rather, being proficient at only one or two different types of calls is more effective!

As for that box call, I think it gets a bad rap as a "beginners" call. I use a box call all the time, esp. for firing birds up or prospecting for them.

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#616764 - 03/25/09 12:21 PM

I am no expert by any means but a good friend of mine called in and took his firt bird with a Quaker boy box call, he gave it to me as he no longer hunts that much. The few times I have turkey hunted I have had birds talk back to me with the box call but I have yet to call one in. I like the box call because it is very easy to use, hopefully it will get the job done for me this year.

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Re: An IN-DEPTH Look at... "How to use Slate Calls" new [Re: Rob Stenger]
#616796 - 03/25/09 07:11 PM

Trying to make it sound like off the TV and the wild while I was bowhunting is the way I learned Rip,,,,and a guy can learn that way when practiceing and those tones do work.

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#616835 - 03/26/09 02:49 PM

Excellent recap on strikers Joel!

I have all of them and constantly mix them up. However, I have to admit one of my favorites is an old plastic striker of mine that I've had for years. I bet I've called in a dozen toms with that one...

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Re: An IN-DEPTH Look at... "How to use Slate Calls" new [Re: Brad Juaire]
#616850 - 03/26/09 05:37 PM

Thanks for the great article Joel!

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Re: An IN-DEPTH Look at... "How to use Slate Calls" [Re: Brad Juaire]
#616976 - 03/29/09 09:59 AM

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Excellent recap on strikers Joel!

I have all of them and constantly mix them up. However, I have to admit one of my favorites is an old plastic striker of mine that I've had for years. I bet I've called in a dozen toms with that one...




That's what it's all about, finding what works best for you! No doubt, you do so well with that call because you're consistent with it, and you have confidence in it. More than anything, repeatability and the confidence in a certain setup will kill turkeys!

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#652528 - 03/22/10 11:44 AM

Thought I would bring this back up to the top. Very good information for the begining and experienced Turkey Hunters.

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#652544 - 03/22/10 02:31 PM

Great idea Rob! See, you are thinking turkeys!

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Re: An IN-DEPTH Look at... "How to use Slate Calls" new [Re: Indepth Webstaff]
#653240 - 04/01/10 08:43 AM

FANTASTIC article.

That settles it...I'm switching strictly to slate calls.

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