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Ben Dvoracek
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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: ruger2506]
#638400 - 11/11/09 03:05 PM

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Good point Ben. The Barnes X bullet is a very good bullet as well. Especially for most guys shooting factory loads. The problem we've had there is when you push bullets to the calibers max velocity, you can copper foul a barrel. I've had limited success with Barnes for this reason. Another problem is that copper is so much lighter than lead, the bullets need to be that much longer just to maintain ballistic coefficient.

I am a factory load guy. I guess I have never had a reason to hand load rounds and push the envelop. Knowing the factory round's capability and having a good rangefinder to know your distance, I have never had a issue.

I strictly use Federal Premium Ammunition. I looked up the ballistics of the 270wsm in Barnes Triple Shock and they look really good for a long range shooter. Plus they retain 99% weight retention so you will have a nice clean entry and exit hole with terminal performance.

http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/rifle.aspx?id=248

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: MossBoss]
#638403 - 11/11/09 03:09 PM

It's risky because of size but if you hit it solid
(the middle 3/4) they drop like somebody pulled the rug out from under them. No meat wasted. Well, there is the fabled neck roast....
My dad was a neck shooter. I have a friend that is too. I've done it twice,,,,accidentally, so I know the results firsthand.

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: Suzuki]
#638412 - 11/11/09 03:37 PM

I highly recommend a neck shot for when it's getting toward dark and you don't want a long track job. With a neck shot, they either drop in their tracks or you miss.

This is a very good post on rifle ammo. I had no idea of all the options out there. I've never had any problems with my .270 and the 'generic' ammo, but at least I know I have options now!


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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: Suzuki]
#638417 - 11/11/09 04:08 PM

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It's risky because of size but if you hit it solid
(the middle 3/4) they drop like somebody pulled the rug out from under them. No meat wasted. Well, there is the fabled neck roast....
My dad was a neck shooter. I have a friend that is too. I've done it twice,,,,accidentally, so I know the results firsthand.




I shot a Buck about 10 years ago in the neck never seen something drop that hard and quick, of course it wasn't where I was aiming at the time either...


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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: Wade]
#638420 - 11/11/09 04:41 PM

You need to look at Barnes's Bullet video some of their bullets are acttualy shorter for same weight as jacketed bullets and there perfomance it great.
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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: bassn7]
#638451 - 11/11/09 07:56 PM

Excellent info fellas! I have one rifle kill from a ballistic tip bullet and a whole bunch of shotgun kills from an expanding type bullet.....and I was not happy with the blood trails of any of them. Thankfully I was able to see them drop in sight.

In about 10 days( ) I'll be in Alberta hopefully chasing some brutes. My ammo for this trip will be Fed Prem Barnes triple shock out of my .270wsm. I'll be sure to report back....hopefully...on what exactly happens.


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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: DeanoB]
#638453 - 11/11/09 08:15 PM


I think Jack O'Connor just rolled over in his grave

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Personally I will never shoot large game with anything smaller than a 30 cal. I KNOW a 270 is a good caliber, and will kill large game BUT just my preference. My first rifle was a .270, I grew up in Montana. The .270 was for gophers, jackrabbits, yotes, and antelope.

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: TheMidwestHunter]
#638461 - 11/11/09 09:34 PM

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In about 10 days( ) I'll be in Alberta hopefully chasing some brutes. My ammo for this trip will be Fed Prem Barnes triple shock out of my .270wsm. I'll be sure to report back....hopefully...on what exactly happens.

Please report back!!! I would be very interested in your report. I love Barnes bullets and have not been disappointed with them. Also, for my next gun I am seriously thining of buying a 270 wsm and would like to hear how you think it performs with the Barnes bullets. My guess is that it will perform great. The ballistics of a 270 wsm are almost exact of a 7mm and actually shoots a little flatter at long range.

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: Ben Dvoracek]
#638462 - 11/11/09 09:43 PM

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In about 10 days( ) I'll be in Alberta hopefully chasing some brutes. My ammo for this trip will be Fed Prem Barnes triple shock out of my .270wsm. I'll be sure to report back....hopefully...on what exactly happens.

Please report back!!! I would be very interested in your report. I love Barnes bullets and have not been disappointed with them. Also, for my next gun I am seriously thining of buying a 270 wsm and would like to hear how you think it performs with the Barnes bullets. My guess is that it will perform great. The ballistics of a 270 wsm are almost exact of a 7mm and actually shoots a little flatter at long range.




I'll be able to get yote tags, a wolf tag and obviously a whitetail tag. God willing and golden horseshoe in toe, hopefully I'll have some pics and a couple different animals to report back on.

I bought the .270wsm in a Savage accu trigger mainly because I wanted something different. Everyone has a Rem 700(pick your caliber). With the ballistics that I researched beforehand, I figured what the heck. .270wsm it was. The gun is crazy deadly accurate with those ballistic tips all the way out to an easy 300 with factory ammo and off a bench(God knows I can't shoot that good ha, ha), but I think the only thing I'd be shooting BTs at are yotes. Just wasn't a fan of what they did with medium size game.


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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: TheMidwestHunter]
#638703 - 11/12/09 10:33 PM

The reason I quit using Federal Premium greentip Nosler ballistic tips was the bullet never exited on my 2 pie plate deer shots! There was also an issue of a lot of bloodshot meat on the rear shoulder. Neither one had any sausage meat left! It did explode ballistically though!

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: ruger2506]
#638719 - 11/13/09 04:54 AM

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For shooters that attempt better accuracy, this is a great option. My dad and I have a contest to see who can shoot the tightest group. He's winning with a 1 9/16" group at 300 yards. My uncle has him beat with a 1 7/16" group at 300 yards. Best I've done so far is 1 3/4" at 300. I'll get them yet.




Is that the best you can do???

LOL... SHEESH, thats some good shootin!!!


Seriously, great post guys. Always love reading about bullets, ballistics, and deer. Love reading and calculating ballistics tables, too. Keep the posts coming!

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: whittsend]
#641556 - 11/26/09 11:23 PM

two suggestions , try 150 gr federal fusions ( cheaper and accurate in my 270 wsm ) , adjust your shot placement . as everyone else has stated the hump shot is exremely effective . another very effective shot is the direct shoulder shot , as in directly in the broadside shoulder , directly in the shoulder with a 3/4 facing shot , and lining up the vertical crosshair with the off leg in a 3/4 away shot . all puncture vitals, hit solid bone and prevent running by destroying shoulder bone , ligament , tendons and muscle.

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: Buck Wacker]
#642208 - 12/02/09 02:43 PM

By far, IMO, the most interesting thread of the season. Always been a factory load guy too and was always a double lung-heart shooter.....not any more! As far as my 270. goes, wouldn't trade it for anything, the most reliable, accurate gun that I own.
I will be making a switch to the Barnes cartridge for next season and as far as that high "hump" shot goes, I was fortunate to try it just a few days after reading this post, this buck didn't know what hit him, very quick and humane results.

Thanks to all who contributed their time and knowledge on these subjects, you just made my deer hunting experience all the more exciting

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: Ben Dvoracek]
#642211 - 12/02/09 03:18 PM

Great info Guys.

I should have read this before SD.

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: Rob Stenger]
#642215 - 12/02/09 03:37 PM

I almost forgot this thread. I recovered my Accubond from the buck I shot this year. First non-pass through. I'll take a pic of it tonight and shre the story.

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: Ferny]
#642232 - 12/02/09 06:35 PM

This has been a great post, very informative. I thought I'd share my (limited) experience with ballistic tips. Last year I got the chance to hog hunt on a buddy's ranch down in South Texas, and to return the favor I cleaned all the hogs and deer shot in camp that week. One guy was using Federal ballistic tip ammo, and every deer and hog he shot was a mess. No one exit wound, bullet literally exploded on impact, and multitudes of scattered exit wounds from bullet fragments. Shot placement didn't seem to matter, and this was with a 30-06. I ended up shooting a couple hogs with a borrowed .270 and ballistic tips, and one of the hogs I spine shot and had the same result - shattered spine, but shattered bullet and no real exit wound. Don't think I'll be using ballistic tips for hunting in the future, though they are mighty accurate.

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Re: 270 WSM Ammo / Blood trail Issue new [Re: YFarm]
#642256 - 12/02/09 09:41 PM

Here is a pic of my Accubond I recovered from my buck. Shot was probably 50-60 yards, quartering toward me. Bullet entered left front shoulder, smashing through shoulder, through both lungs, breaking two ribs on the off side and ending up lodged just under the hide. Deer ran about 60 yards and crashed dead. Certainly did it's job.

Was a pretty nice mushroom still, I don't have anything to weigh it, but it looks about 2/3rds to half or so is left if I had to guess.

It's a 140 grain 270 bullet.

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