Brad Juaire
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Excellent update Joel! Very good points. I like to say that turkeys are not always doing the same thing at the same time. It changes daily out there and from location to location and from one flock to another flock.
What is everyone else seeing out there?
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i see dead turkeys in the near future
good read joel
wish i had more mornings to scout darn fish and stupid work
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this one was new to me had a buddy out this am scouting for this weekend never heard 1 gobble but had 3 toms fly down in the field with 9 hens
do they sometimes not gobble at all from the roost??
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Edited by gutone4me (04/08/09 09:35 AM)
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Great report Joel! 
Only one more week!
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Quote:
this one was new to me had a buddy out this am scouting for this weekend never heard 1 gobble but had 3 toms fly down in the field with 9 hens
do they sometimes not gobble at all from the roost??
It's rare, but I've had it happen most often during poor weather (when flydown is much later). It's also happened to me when the toms were roosted in the same tree or immediate area as the hens if the hens fly down early. When they can maintain visual contact, I guess there's no need to gobble? This sounds like the scenario that your buddy found.
I've also had subordinate or satellite gobblers not make a peep while the big dog is a hundred or more yards down the line tearin' it up. Those lesser birds, which can be great gobblers in their own right, just pitch out of the tree and pick through the woods/field without making a single gobble.
Joel
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Joel, theres a saying down here that the first birds to make any sounds while still on the roost are hens, is there any truth to that, do you ever hear any toms gobble first?
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My experience is usually that the toms gobble far before the hens actually. While it's true that there are days when the toms refuse to gobble, or few of them do, and hens will be yelping "earlier", I find that during heavy gobbling periods the toms will crank up when it's barely getting light!
Some studies done by T.R. Michels in southern MN confirm this thought, see attached graph.
In fact, I think that calling too early, too loud, and too proud, before the real hens start talking is a major error on the part of many hunters. Start soft and give the morning time to develop.
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Thanks, good to know. I'll be listening if I make it out this year.
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Brad Juaire
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Excellent graph Joel! Thanks for posting!
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Thanks for the info Joel. 
Only two more days!
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